Dr. Murtuza Shah-Khan sits down with Dr. Brian Specht and Kricket Doker from CAD/CAM Docs to break down the full digital dentistry workflow, from scanner selection to milling, 3D printing, materials, and finishing. Brian and Kricket share the philosophy behind CAD/CAM Docs: giving dentists an affordable, practical alternative to closed-ecosystem same-day setups, with real lab and equipment support behind it.
Kricket dives deep into esthetic finishing, what makes a great shade photo, how to position your shade tab, and why Miyo Liquid Ceramic has changed her glazing workflow. Whether you’re a seasoned CEREC user or exploring a puck mill for the first time, this episode delivers practical insight from practitioners who are in it every day.
Episode Navigation
01:55 — How CAD/CAM Docs started: equipment repair to digital lab network
03:42 — Four labs across the Midwest and upstate South Carolina
04:09 — The CAD/CAM Docs workflow: the Genie mill, BnD Beyond Multi zirconia, and Chemo oven
05:26 — Sintering times: milling and firing a single zirconia crown in under 30 minutes
07:46 — Kricket’s role: esthetic casework, design support, and education for clinicians
12:10 — Zirconia material selection: matching material to furnace for same-day success
16:02 — Clinical photography: shade tabs, DSLR setup, and the Fixed Light system
19:54 — Equipment recommendations for new and growing digital practices
23:35 — 3D printing vs. milling: night guards, dentures, inlays, and when each wins
36:37 — Miyo Liquid Ceramic: how Jensen’s glazing system works and why it’s different
41:20 — How CAD/CAM Docs simplifies digital dentistry for clinicians
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
✅ How the CAD/CAM Docs lab network works as both a lab partner and an equipment showroom
✅ Why furnace compatibility — not brand loyalty — should drive your zirconia selection
✅ The Genie mill + Chemo oven workflow that delivers a milled and fired crown in under 30 minutes
✅ When a puck mill makes more sense than a block-based system like CEREC
✅ How to take shade photos that actually help your dental technician
✅ Where to position the shade tab when restoring tooth #8
✅ Why the Fixed Light softbox system transforms clinical photography
✅ 3D printing ROI: why night guards alone can justify the investment
✅ The difference between SprintRay Pro 2 and Midas — and when to use each
✅ How Miyo Liquid Ceramic stains stay in place after firing when other systems shift
Key Takeaways
Furnace First, Material Second: For same-day zirconia, the fastest material is whatever sinters fastest in your furnace. Kricket’s rule: if you have a CS6, use Ivoclar Zircad Prime; if you have a Speed Fire, try Katana Speed.
30 Minutes Start to Finish: The Genie mill cuts most single-unit zirconia in 7–15 minutes. The Chemo oven sinters in 9 minutes. That’s a milled and fired crown in under 30 minutes — at a fraction of the cost of legacy same-day systems.
Know Your Photography: Kricket prefers a DSLR with a 100mm macro lens and the Fixed Light softbox system. For tooth #8, place the shade tab inside tooth #9 — you’ll capture the prep shade and the reference tooth in one shot.
3D Print Your Night Guards: Labs charge $150–200 for a night guard. A 3D printer produces one for around $4. If that’s all you ever print, the machine pays for itself.
Miyo Stays Put: Unlike traditional glazing systems where colors can shift or disappear after firing, Miyo Liquid Ceramic is self-leveling and color-stable. You can layer colors on top of each other without them bleeding or moving.
CAD/CAM Docs is Not Just a Lab: Brian and Kricket offer design support, staining guidance by phone, equipment troubleshooting, and virtual showroom tours. Dentists who buy the Genie system can call the labs directly for real-time help.
Featured Discussion Topics
digital dentistry | CAD/CAM | same-day dentistry | zirconia | milling | 3D printing | SprintRay | dental photography | shade matching | Miyo Liquid Ceramic | Jensen Dental | glazing | staining | in-office lab | Genie mill | Chemo oven | CEREC | puck mill | dental lab | esthetic dentistry
Meet Our Guest
Dr. Brian Specht and Kricket Doker are the founders of CAD/CAM Docs, a digital lab network with four locations across the Midwest and South Carolina. They specialize in helping dentists implement cost-effective digital workflows with equipment support, design assistance, and real-time clinical guidance. Their approach focuses on practical, affordable alternatives to traditional same-day systems, making digital dentistry accessible to practices of all sizes.
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Topics: digital dentistry, CAD/CAM, same-day dentistry, zirconia, milling, 3D printing, SprintRay, dental photography, shade matching, Miyo Liquid Ceramic, Jensen Dental, glazing, staining, in-office lab, Genie mill, Chemo oven, CEREC, puck mill, dental lab, esthetic dentistry
Transcript
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00:00:01.840 — 00:00:13.640 · Speaker 1
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00:00:34.680 — 00:01:28.360 · Speaker 3
Welcome back to the Simplify Dentistry Podcast. I’m your host, Murtuza Shah-Khan. Today we have Doctor Brian Specht and Kricket Doker with us. Brian is a practicing dentist in Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin. He’s the founder of Capcom Docs, a company specializing in CAD, cam equipment repair, distribution, and recently dental lab services.
Brian has built multiple dental labs and is a trusted authority in digital dentistry. Kricket is a registered dental technician and certified dental assistant in upstate South Carolina. She’s a key opinion leader and expert for Dense by Sirona Jensen Dental. The makers of Mio Liquid Ceramic and Sprint Rei, and she’s the latest in a long line of Docs and Spear faculty members to join us on the podcast.
Welcome back to the Simplify Dentistry Podcast. I’m your host, Murtuza Shah-Khan, and today we’re excited to have Brian Specht and Kricket Doker from CAD cam docs with us. Uh, Brian, Kricket, thanks for joining us today.
00:01:28.680 — 00:01:30.000 · Speaker 4
Thanks for inviting us.
00:01:30.040 — 00:01:31.120 · Speaker 5
Yeah, thanks for having me.
00:01:31.160 — 00:01:55.560 · Speaker 3
Absolutely. Um, so Brian and I’ve talked a little bit before Kcricket. We’ve traded some emails on some stuff that you do. It’s amazing the stuff you post and that you’re able to do, um, in practice. And, you know, especially single centrals, you make us all look, you know, grossly inadequate. So, um, so I just wanted to kind of learn a little bit more about CAD cam docs, how you all started working together and kind of go from there.
00:01:55.600 — 00:03:21.680 · Speaker 4
Well, I started CAD cam docs about, uh, about five years ago now. Um, started off. Mostly, um, repairing, uh, dental lab equipment and, uh, um, fixing scanners and things of that nature. And then over the last, uh, um, couple of years, kind of got known for being able to help, uh, other dentists get their equipment working.
Um, this past summer, I, uh, kind of switched my focus to, hey, I’ve, uh, got a lot of equipment that I’ve fixed. I’ve really enjoy. Same day dentistry. Why don’t I see if I can offer that to to others? And, uh, kind of did a combination of things. Uh, I decided to, you know, open up a couple of labs. Um, I reached out to cricket right away and, uh, you know, talk her about, uh.
Hey, I like to open up some labs and offer other people access the same day. Dentistry. Um, so kind of pick and put some labs in areas that, uh, have a lot of dentists and a lot of need. Um, and then, uh. Besides that, I also wanted to find a new and more affordable way to, uh, let people do same day dentistry in their, in their office.
So I test it out tons of machines, tons of materials, and then picked a combination that seemed user friendly and, uh, quick and also esthetic.
00:03:21.720 — 00:03:24.920 · Speaker 3
Nice. Awesome. Um, so how many labs do you have now?
00:03:25.640 — 00:03:27.120 · Speaker 4
Uh, we currently have four.
00:03:27.200 — 00:03:30.160 · Speaker 3
Okay. So where all are those labs?
00:03:30.520 — 00:03:42.280 · Speaker 4
Yeah. Um, we’ve got, uh, the first lab opened up in Chicago. Second one opened up with me in Milwaukee. Um, and then simultaneously, we opened one up with Kricket and one in Minneapolis.
00:03:42.320 — 00:04:08.880 · Speaker 3
Oh, wow. So. So the Midwest is covered, and I guess upstate South Carolina. Yes. Nice. All right. Sweet. Well, the upside is South Carolina. One would be rather convenient for a dentist in Charlotte, so that sounds awesome. Yes. Um, so one thing I when I was looking over some stuff about y’all, you know, you talk a lot about the CAD cam docs workflow.
Can you talk a little bit more about that and how that workflow makes things easier for a doc working with you?
00:04:08.920 — 00:04:16.640 · Speaker 4
Yeah. So the CAD cam docs workflow in terms of uh, in office, uh, milling, um, kind of comes down to,
00:04:18.200 — 00:05:09.800 · Speaker 4
um, one the B and D, uh, beyond multi. Why is a really high end esthetic zirconia that, uh, can be centered in between 9 and 30 minutes, kind of depending on what you’re doing for single units and then off for full arch. It can be centered in about two hours. So, uh, using this zirconia, I test it out to see what mils are on.
Easy to use and quick. Um, the fastest one I came up with was, uh, the the genie, uh, the genie mill over here. Uh, so I’m finding that within, 7 to 15 minutes. I can mill pretty much any zirconia crown. Um, and then, uh, I’ve got the the chemo oven. Um, let’s move this over a little bit.
00:05:11.640 — 00:05:26.040 · Speaker 4
I’ve combined that with the oven and, uh, the oven. Um, both of these can handle nine minutes sintering times so they can ramp up very quickly and do a very fast firing cycle.
00:05:26.160 — 00:05:35.320 · Speaker 3
So you’re saying you can get a single zirconia crown milled and fired in 18 minutes? Is that the math I’m thinking of here?
00:05:35.680 — 00:05:38.200 · Speaker 4
Yes. 8 to 18 to 30 minutes. Kind of. Oh, wow.
00:05:39.040 — 00:05:40.000 · Speaker 3
So nice.
00:05:40.760 — 00:05:45.960 · Speaker 4
It’s a nice, uh, less expensive way to be able to do same day dentistry.
00:05:45.960 — 00:06:11.040 · Speaker 3
So I’m a I’m a cerec guy I’ve had a prime scan for, I don’t know, since they came out. So I guess what, six years or so have my speed fire have a CS six. Um, also for other stuff. Um, how does this compare to that? Is it? You know, cost is one thing you touched on. Is it less expensive to do it this way? Are you seeing better results with it?
How does that shake out for both you all on your end, Brian, and Cricket on your end?
00:06:11.080 — 00:06:45.960 · Speaker 4
Yeah. In terms of, uh, um, the esthetics. Um, it does have smaller, smaller burrs so that we can get into some more fine details. Um, it is a five axis mill, so you’re not getting, uh, um, as much, uh, over milling. So you can just have a little bit more precise over restoration and, uh, you’re doing that within.
Again, that’s 7 to 15 minutes, which is kind of the time. Um, so a little bit better occlusal anatomy. And then, uh, you know, you’ve got the, the speed.
00:06:46.160 — 00:06:59.000 · Speaker 3
Nice. And then, um, are you able to take scans from any system? Can you take stuff from a prime scan and an eye tarot and, you know, playing Mecca and all these other wonderful systems that are out there that are overwhelming me right now.
00:07:00.240 — 00:07:22.600 · Speaker 4
Um, so, uh, where my workflow is going is from. Once you have it designed at the moment, um, from design, you import the STL file into either mailbox or work and see that’s your cam software. Okay. And then it’s just, you know, 2 or 3 clicks on the mill. It starts the milling and then you’re, you’re kind of off to the races.
00:07:22.600 — 00:07:31.680 · Speaker 3
So the doc is doing the design work. You’re not doing the design work. Is that an option for a doc that works with you to have Cricut design the restoration better than all of us would do?
00:07:32.040 — 00:07:46.000 · Speaker 4
Yes of course. So this this is if you’re going to try to buy, um, the milling machines and do it all yourself in office. Um, I’ll let cricket kind of talk about our, our lab as well, because she can do all the wonderful esthetic works that are needed.
00:07:46.040 — 00:09:37.400 · Speaker 5
Nice. Yeah. Yeah. So for me, I kind of joined into this. Um, I teach a lot with a bunch of different dental companies. Um, I’m Mikael with mini red resident faculty for doc pepper spray, and I was able to teach what I do every day, but I was not able to give into the dental community around the country. So I’m in a, um, dental office now in upstate South Carolina.
So I’m there with two practitioners. Um, so now being in with CAD, cam docs are able to give into our community. So for me, I really, of course, lean into that esthetic case, the case that makes other practitioners want to pull their hair out or stress out about it. They’ll sit on their on their day for the morning.
Single unit number eight. And they’re just really stressed out. Um, so I, you know, I’m here for that. I’m here for anything, really. I mean, those single unit cases that you just don’t have time for, um, bridge cases, really? Anything, um, from the simplest to the most complex. I think the benefit to with a with a lot of our technology in the laboratory is those of us who have cerec.
Usually center with something like speed fire or CS six, which I have. But the zirconia that we center is great when we’re doing the same day posterior. But if you’re going to do anything interior when you center something, go fast. It’s not as esthetic with our equipment, right. So the ability for me to be able to be in a laboratory and center overnight, that zirconia is beautiful from the start.
And then I add on top of it, that makes it even more pretty. So I’m here for the same day cases, and I’m also here for the cases that we need a little bit more time and attention in detail to. Um, so it’s been really a good thing for me to be able to share, I guess, with the other, um, clinicians around the, around the country.
00:09:37.520 — 00:10:13.520 · Speaker 3
Yeah. I think it’s great that you all are talking about the community that y’all are building. That’s one big thing with our group. Um, you know, we’re looking for a community that wasn’t really out there. There’s different kinds of stuff on in these communities and Facebook groups and stuff like that.
We just we couldn’t find one that kind of appealed to what we call the kind of experienced and aspirational doc, the one that’s been out like ten years or so or more that has their own practice, that is, you know, technologically inclined, has a crack or has, you know, other systems that are out there and are looking to kind of continue to take their dentistry to, to newer levels and better levels.
So this is great hearing what y’all are doing.
00:10:13.560 — 00:10:33.400 · Speaker 4
Yeah. Thank you. Yes, we love nail to support dentists who are milling in their own office. And you know that might call up for, you know, our case where we can help them design it quickly mil it. And then if you know they’re struggling with the stains or whatever, they can also reach out to us and we can walk them through how to do the custom staining so they can keep their cases going.
00:10:33.440 — 00:10:46.400 · Speaker 3
Oh, nice. So is that an easy thing to do? Like if if I’m working on a case and I, you know, I call over to y’all and if is there a chance I get Cricket on the phone and then she can be like, no, do it like this. You know, paint by numbers?
00:10:46.840 — 00:10:47.040 · Speaker 5
Yeah.
00:10:47.080 — 00:10:47.800 · Speaker 6
Of course.
00:10:47.840 — 00:11:05.240 · Speaker 5
So the the benefit to us is like, we’re here for for you guys. So whether you want me to take the case from start to finish and do the design and everything, whether you want to do the design and then me mill and then you try to finish or whether I’m just finishing, you know, you might send me the design I mill and then I finish and send back to you.
00:11:05.240 — 00:11:05.880 · Speaker 6
So really.
00:11:06.240 — 00:11:11.760 · Speaker 5
Um, I’m here for education. I’m here for whatever. You know, our community needs really nice.
00:11:11.760 — 00:11:28.680 · Speaker 3
And I know you do stuff with docs. You’re one in a long line of docs, faculty members that we’ve had on our podcast between, uh, Sam, who’s our actually are one of our first guests, and then Mike’s, Graham’s dad, Rich and Mina, I know y’all y’all don’t fully claim Mina anymore, but that’s okay.
00:11:29.960 — 00:11:30.400 · Speaker 5
We still.
00:11:30.400 — 00:11:30.840 · Speaker 6
Love him.
00:11:30.840 — 00:12:00.490 · Speaker 3
Yes, exactly. And then we even had Greg Kinzer, um, from spear on to. So it’s great. Great to have another member with us. Um, so that has changed my, my career for the better, for sure. So I know, Brian, you touched on that material. Cricket, are you using that same zirconia in your office? Do you find that you like different zirconia?
I know as a dentist, for me personally, I’m hemmed in on the one that I like. I use katana for basically every zirconia restoration I use in making my office. That’s been.
00:12:00.490 — 00:12:01.250 · Speaker 6
Predictable.
00:12:01.250 — 00:12:10.010 · Speaker 3
For me. So I, you know. Can you touch on materials a little bit and what you see in your office? And then Brian, kind of what you all are doing on on a bigger scale.
00:12:10.050 — 00:12:42.890 · Speaker 5
Yes. So that’s a really good question. I get that question a lot, Cricket. What zirconia do I use? And really all zirconia, zirconia. At the end of the day what matters is what furnace do you have? And the the center. Time for the zirconia. So in a practice, we need things fast because we’re usually doing it same day chair style.
So for me in my practice I have a CS six. So the fastest zirconia that I’m able to do is going to be third type prime because it’s IV class product. It’s IV class on furnace.
00:12:42.970 — 00:12:43.170 · Speaker 6
Yep.
00:12:43.490 — 00:12:47.130 · Speaker 3
Shocking that they make theirs go the fastest in their oven. Correct.
00:12:47.370 — 00:13:42.090 · Speaker 5
So if I have a clinician, like I was just training in an office and they have a speed fire, so maybe they’re fast. Is Laconia could be the um, katana speed. Um, so it really is dependent on, in my opinion, what furnace that you have as to what their cornea because really and truly for same day zirconia for posterior things.
We’re trying to get it done um, as fast as possible. And their zirconia is really zirconia. Of course we want to follow the manufacturer’s instructions with the parameters set for the material, but generally that would be my advice. Now in the laboratory, if I’m not going to have a case that’s due same day, I’m going to use a zirconia that’s going to be puck milled, and I’m going to center it overnight to get the best result possible with the best esthetics.
And I’m going to finish that zirconia with neo, and then I’m going to send it out. But it really just depends on time. So it really depends on the your equipment as to what I would say that you would utilize.
00:13:42.290 — 00:14:00.250 · Speaker 3
Yeah I know, I know now like um, I’m, you know we’ve had true Niagara Falls, and we’re actually going to have Dhaval on a future podcast. And they they love talking about the five axis mill and having that almond go back stuff in their office. Do you all have that in your office, Brian? Is your mill a five axis mill?
Two?
00:14:00.290 — 00:14:44.130 · Speaker 4
Yeah, this is a five axis mill. I haven’t brought it into my office yet. I do have them at my labs so far. Um, so I will be bringing it in at some point. Um, but I’m often. My lab is only a couple miles down the road, so I can always have them. Um, mill the the B and D material and then bring it over. Um, otherwise, I guess my go to right now for milling in my office with a with a block is going to be either, uh, the air to air flash material which can center in uh, like 20, 21 minutes or so.
Just recently. Um, otherwise, uh, the katana one or the katana one. Speed is also great materials.
00:14:44.130 — 00:14:44.970 · Speaker 6
Nice.
00:14:45.210 — 00:15:21.850 · Speaker 3
Um, yeah. It’s funny. Um, my my brother’s, um. My older brother’s been in this a lot longer than I have. I’d love reminding him of that and reminding him that he’s older than I am. But he was an Imax guy. He was a Sierra guy a lot longer before, um, before I started. And, um, the I started with zirconia a lot early on, and he was hemmed in on Imax, and he thought Imax was the greatest thing in the world.
And then slowly but surely, I had the katana rep go see him enough to get to re-emphasize that that katana is a better product. And I was like, oh yeah, katana is great. Everybody should use it. I don’t know why anybody uses Imax anymore.
00:15:21.850 — 00:15:24.090 · Speaker 6
So I do love Imax.
00:15:24.090 — 00:15:28.610 · Speaker 5
Now let’s not hate on Imax. It’s beautiful for those single unit interiors.
00:15:28.650 — 00:16:02.170 · Speaker 3
Oh, absolutely. Like that’s I feel like that’s where I end up using it the most still. Although my, my local lab guy here, um, who may be in trouble now that I’m starting to talk to cricket more, he can make zirconia in the interior look almost as good as he was, you know, as Emacs. So yeah, I think it all comes down to your, your, the clinician and the technician making that stuff work together.
Um, I really kind of nitty gritty detail question. Cricket, what kind of photos do you like to see from a doctor when they’re sending you shade. Is it.
00:16:02.210 — 00:16:03.130 · Speaker 6
Or do you.
00:16:03.130 — 00:16:09.690 · Speaker 3
Want an SLR? Do you want, you know, are you taking iPhone camera pictures? What what do you like to see?
00:16:10.370 — 00:17:30.050 · Speaker 5
This fleet, Southern Solomon will say I will take what I can get. A picture is just great when I get a picture. But I would of course prefer a DSLR camera picture. But I mean, the iPhones nowadays are pretty up to date with their photography, so I’m not, you know, it’s not the end of the world as long as it’s a good quality photograph.
What I love to see is maybe the shade tab that they use in reference with the shade that they selected held up in the picture. Yeah. To the teeth that they were matching. I think that’s really important. And of course lighting is really important. So for me, um, with my photography, for all my presentations and stuff, um, would be with a DSLR camera with a 100 macro lens and the fixed light by Kaitlyn Pop, which is really kind of transformed, um, my skills as a clinician, just being able to see clinically what I’m doing, like when I would get done with a case, I would look at the picture and really study it to get better and to grow and see things more clearly.
So I think good photography is like the key to our success. So yeah, I would prefer a DSLR camera picture and it’s really crisp and clean. But if a clinician can’t, um, don’t feel comfortable with that, then just a really good quality photograph with the shade tab is great.
00:17:30.090 — 00:17:33.450 · Speaker 3
And what was your go to flask that you mentioned? Sorry I missed that.
00:17:33.490 — 00:17:41.050 · Speaker 5
Um, I used the 100 millimeter macro lens. I use a twin flash. And then Caitlin Pop had created something called fixed light.
00:17:41.050 — 00:17:41.530 · Speaker 6
Mhm.
00:17:41.610 — 00:17:45.770 · Speaker 5
Um it’s a soft box set up that mounts to the camera.
00:17:45.850 — 00:17:46.170 · Speaker 6
Mhm.
00:17:46.210 — 00:17:47.730 · Speaker 5
I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of it.
00:17:47.730 — 00:17:59.810 · Speaker 3
Um but um I have a dentist buddy down the literally down the hall from me and I think he has that system. He um, he’s a photography junkie, so I, I get his hand-me-downs, which works out great for me.
00:18:00.130 — 00:18:09.170 · Speaker 5
Yeah. So the twin flash is what you use for usually for anterior stuff. But the twin flash can be really intense. So that softbox is mounted to the twin flash.
00:18:09.210 — 00:18:09.770 · Speaker 6
Okay.
00:18:09.770 — 00:18:16.770 · Speaker 5
Um, really just makes the picture a lot more. It gives a lot more clarity, and it doesn’t spotlight the picture.
00:18:16.970 — 00:18:17.370 · Speaker 3
Oh, that’s.
00:18:17.370 — 00:18:17.810 · Speaker 6
Awesome.
00:18:17.850 — 00:18:18.570 · Speaker 5
That you take.
00:18:18.810 — 00:18:28.290 · Speaker 3
So that and here’s the even more boring, detailed question. Where do you like a shade tab to be? If we’re doing number eight, where do you want the shade tab to be and how do you want.
00:18:28.330 — 00:18:28.690 · Speaker 6
Your do it?
00:18:28.730 — 00:18:34.850 · Speaker 5
Number eight I would love for you to position the shade tab on the inside of tooth number nine.
00:18:34.890 — 00:18:35.850 · Speaker 3
Oh okay.
00:18:35.890 — 00:19:13.850 · Speaker 5
That would be great because we’re going to copy and reference tooth number nine. And so I can see the transition from two over nine all the way to that shade tab. So it gives me more clear definition. And it also allows me to see the preparation shade. Um so I can see kind of that that gives me that prep. So I can kind of see if I’m going to change to say a doctor is asking me for Emacs and they give me a shade tab, it’s a V to shade tab, shade a two, and I look and see that the prep is II actually a good color.
It’s not too dark. I might would choose to do like an h t, but I would need to see that prep to make sure that it’s not too dark for that.
00:19:13.890 — 00:19:54.970 · Speaker 3
Okay, awesome. Um, these are the kind of nitty gritty questions I love and I stress over, so it’s good to hear that from you. So a couple other things, um, equipment wise, you know, so I mentioned I have a prime scan, I have an MCL. I have that speed fire and a c S6. Brian, you’ve touched on that equipment a little bit.
I’d love to hear a little bit more about it. And then Cricket, you mentioned the CS six in your office. What, What all do y’all see? As far as what you want doctors to have, what you think. If I was a new doc coming out, I just. I just started a practice or I took over somebody practice that didn’t have CAD cam in their office.
What setup would you recommend for them now?
00:19:55.130 — 00:21:03.210 · Speaker 5
Yeah. So for me, it really depends on what the doctor’s goal is like, how tech savvy is he? I don’t think anything beats same day dentistry like Sarah does. It’s like the system is just really one of the fastest systems, if not the fastest. Now I will say if the doctor wants to do multiple things, um, the has limitations because of blocks, for instance.
So for me, I can’t do a big bridge with my fabric in a lot of cases, right? I need a pulp mill for that. So we have a doctor that’s really like into technology. You really want to keep things in-house and I’m going to more. So push them into a pulp mill set up like we have a CAD cam dock, right? It’s still pretty fast.
It really is. Can be very fast. Um, but it’s going to allow growth and the ability to do bigger things. Whereas we’re this is a doctor that just wants to do like posterior. Single units don’t. Doug doesn’t really care about doing the big things. We want to outsource that. Um, then you really can’t beat the system for fast and reliability.
00:21:03.330 — 00:21:05.730 · Speaker 3
Nice. Brian, what’s your take on that?
00:21:05.770 — 00:21:39.610 · Speaker 4
Yeah, I think, um, that’s kind of exactly what I’m trying to do is give it an alternative option to, uh, to cerec workflow. Um, and I think, uh, the CAD cam docs workflow is, is doing pretty well with that. I think, uh, it’s nice to be able to have the option for a puck mill, which, I mean, yes, you can still mill blocks if you want.
There’s an adapter for that. It’s my mill. Your own titanium abutments. Um, so you can just have a really nice esthetic merchant’s profile. Good cleanse ability, everything like that. And I’m starting to smell more and more dentures.
00:21:39.890 — 00:21:40.650 · Speaker 3
Oh, wow.
00:21:41.130 — 00:21:57.410 · Speaker 4
I’m really liking to fill my PMMa dentures because you’re getting the, you know, the the benefits of the digital design. Mhm. You’re, uh, you know, getting the benefits of, uh, well, traditional PMMa and strong format.
00:21:57.570 — 00:22:03.010 · Speaker 3
So you’re able to mill a PMMa denture in that five axis mill that you have.
00:22:03.330 — 00:22:03.850 · Speaker 4
Yes.
00:22:03.890 — 00:22:05.210 · Speaker 3
And uh, with your Cao.
00:22:05.290 — 00:22:42.810 · Speaker 4
We’ve been doing more and more of that lately. And, uh, I think they they look gorgeous. You you can get the, the box that have all the little filaments in there. So like a little Ford denture and then you can even get that, uh, pucks that are, uh, you know, teeth colored that have the, the shade, uh, degradation built into them.
So it’s the multi-layer. Oh, wow. Uh, static looking dentures made on them. And, you know, that’s the nice thing about, like, if you can partner with the lab and you can still have the lab help you design that, and then you can just mill it when you’re done.
00:22:42.970 — 00:22:50.170 · Speaker 3
And like, roughly how long does it take you to mill a full denture in in the machines at CAD cam docs?
00:22:50.690 — 00:22:58.370 · Speaker 4
I would still be about A22 hour process. Okay, so that’s not your ten minute crown. It’s still a longer process.
00:22:58.450 — 00:23:34.450 · Speaker 3
Yeah, I can imagine. Um, so I think that’s kind of a natural segue into, um, cad cam milling and, and then versus 3D printing, especially with dentures. Um, you know, as we said, we all love Mina. Um, he’s been in my ear a lot about me getting into sprint Ray and using that in my office. I just hadn’t bit the bullet on that yet.
So, Cricket, with your experience with sprint, Ray. You know, would you then recommend 3D printing to an office if that’s what they’re looking at doing versus, you know, traditional milling, like with a cigarette?
00:23:35.010 — 00:23:38.570 · Speaker 5
Um, are you saying for a final restoration, as you’re saying for dentures?
00:23:38.570 — 00:23:39.650 · Speaker 6
You’re saying for what?
00:23:40.210 — 00:24:01.170 · Speaker 3
Well, I guess kind of all in, you know, if you’re looking at dentures, would you rather do do it that way with sprint race set up, would you rather do it with, you know, kind of set up Brian’s talking about and then I know, you know, the single unit argument is one that certain people we know will maybe die on that hill.
And I’m I’m not ready to die on that hill. I still trust my cerec for single units. More.
00:24:01.530 — 00:24:02.250 · Speaker 6
Yeah.
00:24:02.290 — 00:25:25.010 · Speaker 5
So our 3D print. I’m of course, the expert with Ray and a certified trainer with sprint Ray. Um, so I do a ton. I did everything with sprint. Ray. Really? Um, from dentures to to, um, Knight Guards to everything. Now, I will say, I think 3D printing is amazing. I do a lot of 3D printed dentures and they’re great.
I do a ton of them for immediate. Yeah, a ton of them for interim. I’m still kind of on the bandwagon of the final denture to be an acrylic in a lot of cases. Um, but they fit great and they look great. Um, I just kind of fill in that, um, in that, I guess. Lane, uh, bath final, but, um, I think 3D printed restorations, inlays, inlays.
They’re fantastic. The Midas gives a great fast, same day approach to that. Now full coverage I also think can be fantastic. But we have to think and understand, um, a glass ceramic, uh, or a zirconia and a resin are just two different things. Um, if, if you I mean, they’re great for some patients and not everybody can afford maybe a Lexus or a BMW.
You know, they can’t afford that glass ceramic, that zirconia prosthetic. Um, so for those patients, and they need full coverage, and we can give them a discounted rate and do a 3D printed. Why not? Right.
00:25:25.050 — 00:25:25.410 · Speaker 6
Absolutely.
00:25:25.450 — 00:27:06.450 · Speaker 5
Have that option. But I think the best quality covers ceramic, um, steel right now is going to be either the glass ceramic iMacs or the zirconia. Um, so it’s kind of hard to say choose one or the other because I feel like they’re so different. Yeah, I feel like we’re pretty printing. Why aren’t we not in that?
Why is it not in your practice? Because just to rely on a night guard is is incredible. I mean, there there’s design softwares out there that’s free for for the design of these nine guards. We can assist in the design of the night guards with CAD cam docs. Um, but the ROI ones just if you only use your 3D printer just for night guards, you can pay it off in no time.
Um, and it it opens up the door for you to do other things to models. And how how many times do I do a full arch case and I want to ditch the model? You know, it’s like a 3D print. I’m all really quick to try all my ceramics for verification. Um, and like I said, I’m doing 3D printed dentures. And how how many times can you get your lab to turn on a denture within 24 hours?
She’s not possible. And if you’re not comfortable designing, we can do it. And if you don’t want to use us, then spray can do it. So you have all these options. Um, with 3D printer. Um, I really like the Pro two, um, because it gives you the option to do multiple things on the fly. This is great if you’re really focused in on the inlay on play, same day stuff.
It’s fantastic. You can’t do anything faster than that system. But if you’re looking for more of a universal human everything, you’re going to be slower with your inlays on lathe, but you’re going to be able to kind of print anything that you need to.
00:27:06.610 — 00:27:06.970 · Speaker 3
With that.
00:27:07.410 — 00:27:08.730 · Speaker 6
Kind of. Yeah.
00:27:09.210 — 00:27:22.290 · Speaker 3
So how long? Um, I don’t know the numbers off the top of my head. I imagine you do. So how long would it take an, um, the pro two to mil an inlay or. And only for 19 or something.
00:27:22.410 — 00:27:24.250 · Speaker 5
Okay. When you say you mean print.
00:27:24.290 — 00:27:25.130 · Speaker 6
Sorry. Print. Yeah.
00:27:25.170 — 00:27:28.050 · Speaker 3
Sorry. I’m still stuck in my own. My own world there. Sorry about.
00:27:28.050 — 00:27:29.570 · Speaker 6
That. That’s okay.
00:27:29.770 — 00:28:01.850 · Speaker 5
I remember printing is different, so printing the time dictated for 3D print to complete depends on the height. So my build plate, it could be completely loaded down with printing things. Um, as long as the height is the same, then it’s going to print in the same amount of time as if I had one little tiny inlay on that build plate.
Right? So it really depends on the print, um, height. And generally I would say maybe 20 minutes.
00:28:01.890 — 00:28:02.450 · Speaker 6
Okay.
00:28:02.490 — 00:28:13.290 · Speaker 5
Um, to print with the prelude, whereas Midas is going to be less than ten minutes. Um, so it’s much faster there. But it really depends on your support height and the height of your restoration that dictates print time.
00:28:13.290 — 00:28:24.130 · Speaker 3
So I guess to to play devil’s advocate now. So but if I wanted to mill out of seer smart out of a block of seer smart for an inlay, is it not around the same time.
00:28:24.410 — 00:28:25.810 · Speaker 6
Yeah. You’re right. Yeah.
00:28:25.850 — 00:28:31.010 · Speaker 5
So the milling for that you could do Thrift Mart with that. You can do Patrick card with that.
00:28:31.050 — 00:28:31.410 · Speaker 6
Yeah.
00:28:31.450 — 00:28:59.290 · Speaker 5
Um, I think the, the, I guess the argument would be, um, if you have a 3D printer, you’re not putting the wear and tear on the machine or the burrs would go in that material, and maybe the over milling is going to be more of an issue with your mill versus like, there’s not that with the printing, right. Um, so your print could be a little bit more accurate with it.
You’re not going to have to worry about, um, and not drawing correctly. Um, but yeah, I mean, I, I mill the Tetrick cat all the time.
00:28:59.330 — 00:28:59.930 · Speaker 6
Okay.
00:28:59.970 — 00:29:18.410 · Speaker 5
Um, so it really just depends on what you have in your practice. If you have one or the other, um, or say, like I have a 3D printer in the practice, but I say that for night guard dentures, like I’m constantly running it. I don’t have an extra one that I’m going to dedicate just for these inlays on lathe. So a lot of times I will mill those, those restorations.
00:29:18.450 — 00:29:25.530 · Speaker 3
Okay, great. And then as far as materials, do you like Cirrus or are you like tetra cad more. What, what what’s your go to on that?
00:29:25.650 — 00:29:27.250 · Speaker 6
I have a car I guess.
00:29:27.290 — 00:29:29.810 · Speaker 5
And so I’ve just my go to is going to be tantric.
00:29:29.810 — 00:29:30.170 · Speaker 6
Always.
00:29:30.210 — 00:29:39.370 · Speaker 3
Okay, great. Brian, what about you? When you’re doing stuff like this in your office as a practicing clinician, what are you what what’s your go to materials for, like an inlay or an online?
00:29:39.410 — 00:30:04.410 · Speaker 4
Um, I think that that’s that’s smart. That is a great one. I’ve got no problems with that at all. I’m not printing any restorations myself. Um, but I do like the idea of the Midas and the Pro two for Quadrant dentistry. If I’m doing, you know, 5 or 6 inlays, that would be a really nice way to get that done in ten minutes for all all the restorations.
00:30:04.450 — 00:30:16.130 · Speaker 3
So as a as a single doc, do you think that having Midas and or having sorry, a pro two and a Ciric is a good option just to kind of give you the whole array of options? Cricket?
00:30:16.170 — 00:30:39.170 · Speaker 5
Absolutely, yes. Yeah, without a doubt. Just like I say, if you just used it for night guards because you were just not on the bandwagon with for 3D printing partials or dentures, yet you didn’t know about inlays on lathe, You just weren’t sure. Well, you know that we, our patients, need night guards. You know, we see these brochure patients.
We know we outsourced it to an on site live, and we pay one $5,200 for a night.
00:30:39.170 — 00:30:39.770 · Speaker 6
Guard right.
00:30:39.810 — 00:30:43.370 · Speaker 5
Now. Can 3D print a night guard for $4? Like, why are we not doing this?
00:30:43.410 — 00:30:43.690 · Speaker 6
Wow.
00:30:43.730 — 00:30:52.450 · Speaker 5
I design it’s free. I mean, it’s it’s just just just this one thing to utilize the Pro two just for this would be well worth it.
00:30:52.490 — 00:30:56.530 · Speaker 3
Sounds like cricket got me to spend a bunch more money here soon. So. Great. Awesome.
00:30:57.730 — 00:31:07.010 · Speaker 4
I am also a big fan of being able to print your, uh, tri indentures or your, uh, you know, custom trays. I guess all my customers are.
00:31:07.010 — 00:31:09.330 · Speaker 6
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn’t think about that.
00:31:09.330 — 00:31:51.530 · Speaker 4
I think, uh, right there is where it’s been really huge is someone comes in for a scan, I can, you know, we can quickly design it, uh, and then print out a custom tray with teeth on it so that you try it in the patient’s mouth, you know, make sure everything’s looking good. Uh, check their bites and then, you know, do a wash impression, and then you’re good for your final.
Pretty much. Because you’ve already checked the midline. You check the esthetics. Based on that, uh, um, try and denture or custom tray. And, uh, it’s really nice to print that. And, I don’t know, maybe an hour last half hour. I don’t think that long.
00:31:52.210 — 00:33:13.610 · Speaker 5
Yeah, I’ll touch on that because it’s a really big part of my practice, too. Brian, um, it’s like a patient that comes in for a new denture. Okay, so we have two types of patients. A patient that’s a dentist without any denture at all. They just come in with their ridge. Right. So I’m going to 3D. I’ll scan the ridge.
I’m going to design a custom tray in something like Mesh Maker for free in lab. Whatever you got right. I’m going to 3D print that in model resin. It’s dirt cheap, cost like almost nothing really and truly. And then I’m going to stack wax on that. I’m going to complete a records appointment just like I always do.
I’m going to do a wash in that. Then I’m going to 360 scan it from that, I’m going to design my denture or say a patient comes in with their denture and it’s just old and you need a new one. I’m going to go ahead and scan that denture 360 with my scanner. I’m going to 3D print it and model resin. And then I’m going to have that denture to do a realign.
And then I can adjust it into your grind on the teeth. If they have a midline cat I can draw or mark or grind in that. If they have a plane of occlusion issue, then I can grind on the teeth to fix that and get it exactly how I want it for the fabrication of the final denture. So it just opens up so many more opportunities to be able to to get to that next step factor.
00:33:13.770 — 00:33:35.980 · Speaker 3
That’s awesome. So to get into nitty gritty stuff again, on kind of staining and glazing, which we touched on a little bit, um, you know, and going big picture on down. So I know we’ve talked about the scanners and in the milling units. As far as scanners, what scanner do you like to use cricket in your office.
And same thing for your Brian scanner.
00:33:35.980 — 00:33:53.340 · Speaker 5
I’m just used to prime scan. I went from blue can to omni can to now prime scan. And so I just think that the ease of it works with the system. And so I’m really not used in another type of scanner. So I’m really not the great the great one to ask about the scanner. But but promising is what I use in the practice.
00:33:53.380 — 00:33:55.020 · Speaker 3
Okay. What about you, Brian?
00:33:55.580 — 00:34:05.140 · Speaker 4
Um, I’m, uh, we have an orthodontist in our practice as well, so we have a combination of the prime scan and, uh, the arrow scanner.
00:34:05.220 — 00:34:07.300 · Speaker 3
Do you have the new one? The, um.
00:34:07.500 — 00:34:08.100 · Speaker 4
The Lumi.
00:34:08.139 — 00:34:09.820 · Speaker 3
The Lumina or whatever? Yeah.
00:34:09.860 — 00:34:11.540 · Speaker 4
Yes. Yep. I have yep. The Lumina.
00:34:11.780 — 00:34:17.620 · Speaker 3
How do you feel like that does for indirect restorations? Do you think it’s as good as the Prime scan?
00:34:17.620 — 00:34:28.460 · Speaker 4
I’ve been using my Prime scan now to scan all of my my my preps, for the most part. The only time I’m using the Lumina for, uh, uh, fixed or movable type stuff is for implants.
00:34:28.500 — 00:34:29.020 · Speaker 3
Okay.
00:34:29.419 — 00:34:39.940 · Speaker 4
I grab it to scan for that. Um, I think, uh, there’s a lot of faster scanners out there these days as well. Um,
00:34:41.020 — 00:35:01.540 · Speaker 4
the eight eight rapid five is a great one. Um, the The Shining Elf or the Shining Elite is a really great one. Um, so for just a scanner that can scan your dentures really easily and everything else, I think there’s a lot of really good choices out there.
00:35:01.580 — 00:35:06.580 · Speaker 3
I noticed nobody said prime scan too, so we’ll just kind of leave that one to the side here.
00:35:08.300 — 00:35:17.460 · Speaker 5
Uh, I’ve used it and it I my opinion on it. I think it works fantastic when it of course has got good Wi-Fi connection.
00:35:17.500 — 00:35:17.780 · Speaker 6
Yeah.
00:35:17.780 — 00:35:44.780 · Speaker 5
Um, it really it feels good. It’s really easy. It’s really mobile. Um, I just haven’t used it consistently every day. So I did this last run, a world last year on mainstage. Um, so I had to do all of my recording with pumpkin two, and it was amazing. And I had a great connection, uh, great connection. And it was really mobile and easy to, to transfer around.
Um, the battery stayed charming. We did all their recordings, and and they stayed charged really nicely.
00:35:44.820 — 00:35:45.340 · Speaker 6
Oh, wow.
00:35:45.380 — 00:35:49.260 · Speaker 5
Um, but I just don’t have everyday use of it to really give a good review on it.
00:35:49.300 — 00:36:18.540 · Speaker 3
Yeah, I think that’s kind of the thing that I’ve, I’ve seen with it and kind of anecdotally is that everybody’s like, you know, if everything works perfectly in your office, it is a fantastic addition to the office. But if one step in that process isn’t working great, then you’re kind of back to a why didn’t I just use my Prime scan instead of the two?
But it’s like we all came around on desk or, you know, begrudgingly, especially me. Um, so now I’ve, I’ve started to I’ve started to embrace DS core, so that’s great.
00:36:18.580 — 00:36:19.220 · Speaker 6
Yeah.
00:36:19.420 — 00:36:37.180 · Speaker 3
Um, as far as Meo. Um, cricket, since you’re the mio expert. Um, can you talk to us a little bit about that? You know, brushes, setups for a doc. You know what? What they can have in their office to do. Well. Um, and, um, kind of go from there.
00:36:37.220 — 00:36:37.540 · Speaker 6
Yeah.
00:36:37.580 — 00:38:07.260 · Speaker 5
Yeah, it’s a little bit about mio. Mio is, um, a a glazing system. Um, it’s much like a traditional system that you’re probably familiar with, like the Avala crystal stain or dense Barcelona system for glazing. But mio is different because it’s an actual liquid ceramic. And so there’s a much more ceramic content in the material, um, to where it’s longer lasting and it looks more esthetic.
So Jensen Dental is the manufacturer of mio, and mio comes in these little jars. There’s two main kits of mio. Um, so they have actually tier side kits, I guess, for um, like a dental practice versus a dental lab. So mio 850 is intended for iMacs to be used, of course from the Ceramics Purple, just to get it as fast as possible.
The way you can remember it is moderate 60 fires at a high temperature of 850°C where Emax crystallizes at. So nearly 50 comes with like a spatula, two brushes, and then the chair side kit, which is basically a limited version of colors. And really it’s great for the clinician that does a ton of iMacs and wants to do it really fast.
Okay. The other system that Jensen makes is called neo esthetic. They have a couple kits of that. They have a neo esthetic lab kit that’s got tons of colors, like black and red and orange and like I’m near Clemson University, so all my patients don’t want a tiger pull on their crown.
00:38:07.260 — 00:38:09.460 · Speaker 6
Like that’s a great setup, right?
00:38:09.500 — 00:40:18.220 · Speaker 5
So and they also have a muted pink kit. So for those of you who are doing implant crowns that need tissue or hybrids that need tissue, um, they also have a neo esthetic care kit. If you’re in a practice and you and you do a lot of zirconia and you just need it to look better. Like our zirconia is so ugly, it’s centered so fast and you need it to look pretty.
The neo esthetic chair side kit is great. It’s smaller. You’re going to have brushes that come with it, a spatula that comes with it. And I love their brushes. They’re really, really, really good. They last a really long time as long as you take care of them. And so the Mil esthetic kit really can be used for both materials.
It can be used for Emax or Zirconia. The caveat is the Emax has to be sintered or has to be crystallized first. So you can’t apply the esthetic when the index is purple and then bring it to that high of attempt. It’s a lower fuzing glazed material, so it has to be fired, you know, lower between 720 to 740. I think it’s going to be the fire of the neo depending on your furnace.
But for me, I’ve used so many systems and it really and truly has changed my life. It is the consistency of the material, the ability to apply colors on top of colors. Before, I felt like I would have to run to the furnace after I was in the room of the patient. I paint the frame as it looked great and I’m like Ronnie, so nothing moved or shift or anything.
And another thing is like I needed to add a color on top of a color. But then I would try with other systems and they would all mold together. Um, with neo, everything stays placed where you put it. Um, it’s really been kind of it. It’s been nonetheless in changing for me in the practice, the very easy system, when I teach it, it’s really the easiest system that I’ve ever taught because it’s very smooth.
Um, for out for application, it doesn’t look splotchy. Um, you really have to work hard to make it even look splotchy because it’s self-leveling, right? So, um. Yeah, it’s it’s an amazing, amazing material.
00:40:18.260 — 00:40:31.460 · Speaker 3
I would agree with all of that. It’s the one that’s made my, um, lack of artistic skills with staining glaze, you know, seem somewhat competent. Now, what about you, Brian? Are using Meo in your office?
00:40:31.620 — 00:40:33.220 · Speaker 4
I am, yes.
00:40:34.220 — 00:40:47.820 · Speaker 3
It just makes it easy. I mean, it’s the first staining glaze I’ve used that actually makes it easy. Um, the other ones I would battle and you’d be like, oh, man, this looks great. And then I’d fire it and I’m like, oh, now it looks completely different. Great. Awesome.
00:40:47.860 — 00:40:48.340 · Speaker 6
Yeah, I.
00:40:48.340 — 00:41:00.220 · Speaker 5
Know, yeah. You would fire in it and it would change. A lot of times my colors would, like, go away. Right. I would apply it if it would fire. I’m like, where did it go? It looks totally different. But with me, I don’t I don’t ever.
00:41:00.220 — 00:41:00.740 · Speaker 6
Have that.
00:41:00.780 — 00:41:20.300 · Speaker 3
Nice. Um, we’ll start wrapping things up. Um, one big question. You know, we’re simplified dentistry. We’re trying to make dentistry simpler for ourselves and our members and everything. So, um, one question we like to ask everybody is what, you know, what can you all do to help simplify dentistry? What does CAD cam docs do to help make things simple for for dentists?
00:41:20.340 — 00:42:33.700 · Speaker 4
Yeah, we’re trying to make it very easy to to do digital dentistry to, uh, you know, either, uh, have a good lab partner or to kind of take the leap into digital dentistry yourself. Uh, so my labs all are acting as, uh, showrooms for the equipment that, uh, that I’m selling. So the genie system, uh, with, uh, the, the chemo oven and all that.
So we’re actually using them in our labs. So anyone’s welcome to come on by and take a look. Um, all these things, you know, hook up to the internet so you can also do a virtual tour with it and see the equipment and try it out yourself. Um, then we’re also, you know, here to help you use it in your office. You know, if you if you get the equipment that we’re, that we’re using and you have a question, just call one of our labs.
And, you know, I’m sure they’ve had the same issue at some point and can know exactly how everything works. So that’s kind of the benefit is, uh, my labs will know how to use the equipment. So if you wanted to try to implement it into your practice, then that kind of eliminates one barrier, you know, good support.
00:42:34.300 — 00:43:10.340 · Speaker 5
I want to say, Brian, how thankful we are to have you in our community. Because to have someone, someone that’s so knowledgeable about this equipment, I don’t know if you knew him way back when he started and he was repairing stuff and helping people and it just just to have that outlet for us. I mean, I’m not really great on repair stuff myself.
I can give you a great crown, but like, if my machine breaks, I’m not sure what to do, you know? And so just to have the contact within our lab just for, for those types of things is a huge, um, benefit, I think, to our community. So, so thank you for that.
00:43:10.380 — 00:43:39.660 · Speaker 3
Yeah. That’s funny. Funny. That’s one of the first ways I caught Brian’s name on, you know, these on different groups that might have been even in Devil’s group. First, you know, somebody was like, you know, I’ve got this issue with my prime scan or my prime Mil or my MCL. Anybody know how to fix it? And then Brian was the guy that it was like, well, you should talk to Brian.
Yeah. You know, he can help you fix this quickly. Don’t go to your, you know, local guy that doesn’t know how to fix machines all the time.
00:43:39.700 — 00:43:53.540 · Speaker 4
I’ve spent a lot of time working on these equipments, so I’m always happy to to help someone to get theirs up and running fast. And, you know, it’s always unfortunate if you’re going to be down for a couple of weeks and if I can help you be up in an hour or the next day, then that’s awesome.
00:43:53.580 — 00:44:00.500 · Speaker 3
That’s invaluable. The the the resource you order, the community is fantastic. And thank you for all that.
00:44:00.540 — 00:44:01.780 · Speaker 4
You’re welcome. Thank you.
00:44:01.820 — 00:44:10.540 · Speaker 3
Um, well, guys, thanks so much for joining us for this episode of the Simplify Dentistry Podcast. We really appreciate it and look forward to talking to you all again in the future.
00:44:10.780 — 00:44:11.980 · Speaker 5
Thank you for having us.
00:44:12.020 — 00:44:12.620 · Speaker 4
Thank you.
00:44:12.660 — 00:44:13.300 · Speaker 3
Thanks.